as soon as a subject turns away from subject  discussed then they can go (from someones saying lets go) to a chit chat any subject personal board

i am just gona add my two penneth here,

i have been on the ' net ' for more than ten years now, and have been a member of many car forums, Mondeo , Vauxhall , Renault and now Jaguar to name just a few, also many photography sites, and was even a Moderator myself for two years ,

chat rooms are not about talking ' drivel ' as it was referred to , its about real-time conversation on an any valid subject , it also saves space on the forums  , and threads from being filled with ' off topic ' comments,

i personally feel no need for a chat room , but i do advocate its benefit within a forum ,

so please do not just dismiss it as ' blurb for kids ' , it is more valuable than that , i would have thought a would have recognised this ??

BB

Phil, you have plenty of time hidden away behind the curtain

another two penneth here,

ive been a member of a number of 4X4 and kite surf forums over the years, all of which have chat areas. personally i dont use them, however i do feel they cut the amount of 'not needed' posts out of the more serious stuff.

i also think that if you were going to look at us as a like minded community of jag lovers, then theres somthing inherantly wrong in being told to go elsewhere for somthing you obviously feel the need for.

kind of reflects badly on the whole jag owner thing, not the first time ive noticed it either, i used to wave and be waved at ofeten by other land rover owners when out in the range rovers. waved at in a jag? by another jag driver? - not once !!!!...........they are more likley to look the other way....

dont let it get you down Roly - should be a good crack on the 25th

Drivel?
Witter away?
Blurb for kids?

If we keep waving at other jag owners the law of averages says that one day someone will wave back.
However, increasing the post count in favour of a chat room, will not work in the same way.
Accept the Forum as it is, it's great in its current format.

Cheers, Archie.

apax wrote on 14.03.2007 at 01:35:13:



everything must evolve

or it will die

not opening your mind to possible improvement will leave a core of posters that have nothing to say over the ( how do i fix the ??/  ) and new members never say anything, just look at the current figures, i bet no more than 20% of members actually post anything , and the majority will have a post count of less than 10 for their entire time here ,

please dont get me wrong, i am not out to cause trouble, but if someone creates a PUBLIC forum , they can not run it like a dictatorship, that recently happened on a photography site i belong to , and 98% of members broke away to form a new democratically run forum , and this has nothing to do with ' rules ' , these are needed, but so is freedom of speech and the right to comment , just because we are told that its useless to request something, doesnt mean we have to and give up ( on any subject ) ,

on another note, deletion of posts , this seems unilateral at the moment, with no possibility of review, again , rules are good, and if someone is being offensive or breaking rules, then so be it, however, unpalatable comments toward a magazine is a bit petty , though i never read them,

in other ( well run ) forums, possible offensive or rule breaking posts are ' removed ' pending review , then if found non offensive by a panel of regular trusted members are re-instated,

when forum ' owners ' bury their heads in the sand with regard to comments from their members, its the start of the end

well, that's me open to some retort............

BB