Jacqueline...best be careful with Ebay - it can get quite addictive!

Hi Jaq

Dan is right , it can be addictive. Your purchase should be ok, 99.999999% are.
Watch the sellers T&C however. They are totally illegal.

He is a business (whatever he may say) and his return policy is illegal.

You can return within 7 days for a full refund if you wish (Distance Selling Regulations)
and items lost in post are his legal responsibility

Phil

Vince
No I wouldn't. There is a difference between selling your kitchen table on Ebay (or anywhere else) and having over 500 items listed on an online auction house at any one time.
The guy is in business , irrespective of where he sources his goods and as such should act like one. He is buying goods in to sell on at a profit.
He has legal responsibilities to his buyers and indeed to the tax man.
Now.....................what have we talked about in previous threads about businesses ripping people off ?

A tax dodging business (if he is doing so) is ripping every one of us off.
A business seller who is adding £1.00 insurance into his shipping is ripping off the buyer as the buyer needs no additional insurance. The only insurance he needs is the legal responsibility the seller has to ensure the buyer gets his goods. etc etc etc

Jaq

As I wrote 99.999% od Ebay deals are fine. It can be great source of sought after items.
Things only go wrong when they go pear shaped (if you know what I mean)
I was essentially advising you that if the film does not arrive he is responsible for a full refund or replacement whatever he may state on his listings. It is not at the Post Offices discretion if you have not paid for insurance.

Found this model on eBay. Not something I have seen before.

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Jaguar-1-43-Die-cast-XJR-S-metal-High-details-RARE_W0QQitemZ2...

Looks quite good. Anybody got one?

Nick

Found this! Didn't expect to see one of these around for sale.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JAGUAR-XJS-EVENTER-ESTATE_W0QQitemZ130115641189QQihZ003QQc...

Notice something familiar with the sellers name ? maybe a certain top gear presenter has a second income from e-bay 

I doubt that, I would imagine that
a. James can probably spell a little better
b. Would have seen one before
c. Would describe such a car in a smidge more detail

The top one is a complete replacement bumper for XJR...I think the second one is the lower apron only (keeping original bumpers) for the XJ Sport.

I think this photo should illustrate the difference....

That's the power of Ebay! Must find out how to sell on there. A fair few bits available, but judging from CiderCecil's comments, a fair bit of hassle too. Cheers, Archie.

And this,god what a price for a spanner.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3A...

Quote:


Amen! 

Erm...sort of a Jaguar

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Traguar-Trike-half-jaguar-half-vw-all-unique_W0QQitemZ2601...

And is most definately NOT the only one , although I doubt the number is in double figures

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1987-JAGUAR-XJ-S-AUTO-BLUE-3-6-litre-Fully-Restored_W0QQit...

Rich relatives to buy him an "xj"

Read the question and answers.

How many times on these forums have Keith or I discussed the massive difference between 'restore' and 'repair' ?

You are quite right Jagkid, the repairs mentioned are standard run of the mill XJS repairs.
Now................................to what standard ????????????

I've always felt that a restored car has had everything replaced or refurbished...every part of the car was touched in one way or another. Anything less than that falls under varying degrees of "freshened up".

It depends on the car.  If it's a modern/recent car, it has been Remanufactured, not "restored".

If it's an Antique or Classic, then you use the term "Restored".

I learned about this distinction between Restoration and Remanufacture from one of the first Antique Car Collectors in the US,  Mr. Don Peterson senior, who started "rescuing" cars during and after WWII, since so many were being melted.

Peterson and his car-crazy friends saw the need to rescue, restore, and preserve the "Brass Era" cars which were by then, abandoned if not melted. Then he started rescuing cars from other decades because if they were not being melted, they were being crushed.

I agree the term Restoration is used generically to mean any car that has been "gone over" and "restored to it's showroom condition", i.e., before it was sold, regardless of its age.  But Don Peterson would disagree loudly.

Also from Don Peterson I learned the Golden Rules of Old Car Buying, through his magazine, "Car Collector and Car Classics", (now online). I've applied those Rules with my two Jags and I have not been disappointed. Don knows his stuff.

regards,
Jos

for you and me,  none,  because the end result is the same.  for Don Peterson, the man credited with inventing Car Collecting and Restoration in the USA,  a lot of difference.

Then there's the concept of "Rebuild", which he says is totally different from Remanufacture and Restoration. 



Jos

Hi Nick, If you mean the XJS 3.6 in Roly's post Reply No 29, I agree. I clocked it and decided that they must have transferred the XJSs original wheels to an XJ6 saloon, which then donated its wheels to the XJS!? Doesn't look too bad though in my view.
Wonder if it will start a fashion? Cheers, Archie.

A Jaguar in the wild crouching in the undergrowth

dream machine
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DAIMLER-SUPER-V8-LWB-LUXURIOUS-XJR-POWER-HISTORY_W0QQitemZ...

Erm...
300 bhp? Try 370...
Twin superchargers? 'Fraid not.

Arrrrrgh  Think I am turning into an ebay addict here.  I have just been through my paypal transactions and discovered I have spent about £300 on various items, mainly sci fi videos in the last couple of weeks.

I have now got a feedback of 30 from sellers and the postie seems to deposit loads of pressies for me on almost a daily basis. Ralph keeps saying is it still Christmas every day

A couple of problems. One a seller not received a paypal transaction and one wrong item which was a buffy box set. The seller has said if I send it back she will send me the correct one but to me that is more hastle than it is worth.

My video hit list to complete various sets is decreasing though.

Hi BB

Got Deep Space Nine, Voyager and Next Generation complete.

Babylon 5 just needs Series 3 complere 4.12, 4.13,5.12, 5.13 assuming they are not like Voyager where series 1 and 2 were slightly shorter

Quite a lot of stargate but 10 tapes required to complete series 1 to 6 on video.

Needing 3 Star Trek original series though have it all complete on DVD.

A few Blake 7, Farscape and X Files crusade and the first episode of Battlestar Galactica required.

Think after the current Buffys I am bidding on/waiting for I will need series 1 pt 2 and series 7 so not doing too badly.

We have various things on DVD but its getting the VHS sets complete on shelves that is more important.

Still working on this hit list but I am sure I will get there in the end

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3A...

Not quite the right one for a mk10 but £52 with 12 hours to go.

its not so much its actual value, but desirability, that is what drives the price up as they are few and far between

BB

ebay ( or sellers on it )is no different to any other 'seller' in the world , be that a private individual or large corporation like Jaguar,

think about it , Jaguar do not sell cars for the cost of the parts plus the cost of putting them together and any other associated cost ( for cost in other words ) , they increase the price for profit, but not only that ( ford tried it...mass car sales with a mass car, didnt work ) they increase the price to an amount they think the customer will pay for the' image' of the item they are buying, more margin in effect, for nothing except brand image

in the case of the spanner, it probably cost pence to make , put it in a tool box, and it ' adds' value to the whole set in that it makes it a complete set, given that its decades old, and few sets remain, let alone intacct, people will pay whatever amount they can justify to complete the set they have, this increases the price of the item,....supply and demand ,
today i paid £7 for a jaguar spanner for my own tool box, the spanner in its self is not worth that amount as a tool , in fact i have several 15/13mm spanners in my tool cabinet already , but i am missing a Jaguar branded spanner for my XJS toolbox, so i thought that it was a reasonable cost to complete the box,

take a picture by a grand master, the sum of its parts ( canvas/board oil paint and varnish ) dont add to much , but the desirability of the picture ( for whatever reason ) drives the price up,

i would not say i am a mug ( i know it was not directed at me , but i am included in the expression), but i'm no different to anyone who goes to a shop and pays without question the price on the tag.........but you have to price match
BB

Chris,

many thanx for the kind offer ,  

this is a good example for the ' wanted' section we are batting for though, it ultimately saves JWM members money

BB

ng4xjs wrote on 12.07.2007 at 14:14:21:

OH Dear
I don't arf feel a mug. But look at it.Its buutiful and will never be used in anger.

spanner in question went for 63 quid.



( remind me not to go to antique shops)

Look at this beauty
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Daimler-Light-Straight-8_W0QQitemZ170131163409QQihZ007QQca...

That is style.
I bet keith would have kittens trying to make a front wing for that.

christ I wonder what reserve is???
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130133632825&fromMakeTrack=...

Quote:



Roly ....... its the lowest price the vendor is willing to accept!!

i'm now torn between the general lee one and this one roly....... dont know which to bid for........

OH YEAH BABY............Very Austin Powers

I agree apax, but that bubbling  rust patch looks expensive though........

if I had the money.
Looks nice motor on a quick read.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120147627717&ssPageNam...

Is that mold on boot carpet

Roly, I want one just like that, but with the Jaguar Sovereign badging. £3500 seems reasonable if it is as described. Cheers, Archie.

Right across the back seats of course ! This is why I need an estate type vehicle, as any saloon immediately becomes a two seater once he's on board. If it wasn't for that I would be diving a Jaguar as my daily car. I have been looking a bit sideways at the X Type but it's just a bit too 'dishonest' for me, (unless the prices come down dramatically, that would colour my thinking!). Cheers, Archie.

I used to have an X type saloon . It is actually very entertaining to drive , especially on fast A  & B roads . I wouldnt discount another but do prefer my V70 T5 - faster in all aspects , more luxurious and holds sooooooooo much stuff .

Sounds very suspicious to me. Firstly American Presidents use Cadillacs or some such I think - certainly not an english motor associated with our Royal Family! Secondly Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan had been and gone before this car was built.

It's not far from me - I might go and take a look if I haven't got any paint that I need to watch dry . There are plenty of funeral parlours in Wickford - far more likely to be the source than US Presidents!!

And besides that, I'm pretty sure that when a US president travels abroad it involves several aircraft, including cargo transports carrying vehicles for the pres and all the secret service agents, etc.   Then again, maybe I've been watching too many movies.


A weekend in the UK probably only costs a  million dollars or so, all told   

Cheers
DD

Hi All

It may have been used in a Presidential visit, but not to carry the president himself.

When I owned a chauffeuring division within my security company we had a contract with GCS (Government Car Service) and took part in the Clinton visit to London.

We supplied drivers with both Jaguar S Types and a Grand Voyager which took part in the motorcade but carried American Embassy Staff and visitors, not Clinton himself.

I seem to remember as the other poster said, his vehicle and bodyguards vehicles were flown in and used for thier use solely.

Regards

Chris

I wanted a feeler gauge but not at that price and feelers are rotten rusty
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230162532761&ssPageNam...

i got one of them in the garage,

as for the guages, i did look on Sunday , but none of the stalls had any , but there was one stall selling Mk2 toolkits for £35 , complete

BB

The spanner went for £92  .

Some price that.

Worlds gone mad. :ohttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130144797083&ssPageNa...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250156433665&ssPageNam...
Considering a feeler gauge went for £50 and a adj.spanner went for £90 the other day then look what this went for

I wish I had saw it for that price.

if you have one in saville grey and good monkey not fake walnut then let me know.
Only thing that blemishishshsishs my car.




But not for that money.

skjagtech wrote on 30.08.2007 at 22:30:20:

Yep the six with the sunroof.
sadly the 12 doesn't have one.

I have never seen a Majestic with a sunroof ever.
No doubt someone will prove me wrong.
And Its a damn big headlining .

Hi Darcy. A real bargain but, Pepperpots? On a 40? Did you check that they will fit? Never seen that one done yet. I'm thinking of the stud to hole line up, PCD I think it's called. Cheers, Archie.

The PCD is exactly the same as BB states.
Genuine Jaguar pepperpots will foul the front calipers but most of the copies will fit ok.
Jaguar wheels will be stamped GKN and carry the Jaguar part number.
Not all Pepperpots however were made by GKN, some have a very slightly different offset and will therefore fit.

I have seen them fitted with use of spacers ( not recomended) and even by grinding a few mm off the edge of the brake caliper in order to clear (Definately not recomended)


They may be cheap but ( in my view)  do not look right on the XJ40. Remember also they are usually shod with 205/70/15 tyres which just look odd (small and narrow) on a Basil.

The problem is , Pepperpots are a 6.5J rim whereas the Basil rims are 7J or 8J.
225s will almost certainly fit but will be a little 'stretched' on the rim and probably will not sit right (visually).

Bottom line is, the Pepperpots are not really right for the Basil even though they can be made to fit. Same goes for the Starfish as fitted to the XJS.

That is one reason why pepperpots can be bought so very cheaply these days. Few people want them in reality.

Fitted one of the alloys on the os front, and doesnt seem to foul the caliper.

Not really Jag related (other than the seats ) but good for a laugh - NICE strut brace and cocktail cabinet 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180156568280&fromMakeTrack=...

I am crying, but cant work out whether its tears of joy or sorrow.!
My herald convertable seems underdressed. must fit some extras!

Just in case anyone was still wondering why we closed the workshop selling used Jaguar spares.
This just about sums it up !
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220145199597&ssPageNam...

i have had the Herald for 22 yrs and its usually poory somewhere ( currently showing oil light when hot...) Thats why I bought a reliable ish Jag!

Hmmm...
I also won something from him recently.
I was after a blower motor for my XJR for the usual reason of non operation on low speeds. I won a pair and they were delivered but the one I needed was damaged as the recirc flap was loose from the operating arm.

I emailed the seller and got no response!! 

So in frustration I used the electronic bits in my original casing and luckily for me it worked perfectly.

So poor service but I got the result in the end with a bit of faffing around.

Cheers
Mark

Ive found the ideal Daimler V8 for going round events.
I do like it.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220147854074&ssPageNam...

[quote author=skjagtech link=1178390152/100#122 date=1189350124]This says it all really

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jaguar-xjs-v12-3-6-front-lower-quater-panel-n-s-B1_W0QQite...

£30.00 for used rusted pile of *&*& from one of our best loved suppliers on ebay.

And some one has bid on it... NEW price from Jaguar £29.50 + VAT

I despair[/quote

but you got to paint the one from jaguar...........

BB

Steve

as the medium could be so good but is let down by crooks (mostly businesses I might add)

I agree but would like to quantify that statement a little.
It is indeed mostly businesses but many are businesses masquerading as privateers or operating illegally in another form.
The instant you buy with a view to sell at a profit you are a business (or trader if you prefer). No ifs buts or maybes, that is the law of the land.
As such you are liable to declare earnings to the tax man etc etc (yes I know zzzzzz) Many many don't and that is painfully apparent in the prices that they sell goods for. They also of course have legal responsibilities as a trading business. I would go as far as to say to a man they ignore each and every one. Probably because they think that they are not a business so none apply.

Then there is the legit business (as in your link) that ignore just about every legal duty regarding mail order sales (which is what an Ebay purchase is )
By law they need to show clearly full contact details, company registration number (if registered with Companies House), their VAT registration number (if registered) and show clear (and legal) returns policy. They also need to comply with DSR.
Don't tell me Baywatch (and associate IDs such as 1twolf) are not Vat registered (or should be since we know who they actually are).
However, next time you buy from them, ask for a Vat reciept (it is your right to ask for one and they are legally bound to supply one )
You may be surprised at the response (or lack of)
They are just the obvious ones.

These people are trading illegally, again , no ifs buts or maybes.
They are cheating the system.
They are thieving from the system.
You and I are the system.

Ebay does NOTHNG to discourage any of the above and this is clearly not applicable to the motor trade only.
It is rife on Ebay in just about every market place, the DVD/Phone/Video game market probably being the biggest sufferer.

Ebay is actually still a great place to buy, if you know exactly what you are looking for as goods often sell for well below 'market 'price. It is a competetive world out there. Sadly, the only way to be competetive as a seller on Ebay is to swim with the bottom feeders too.
All the time however, we, as buyers are purchasing from the illegal traders we merely enhance their stranglehold on the market place.
For me that is a high price to pay (in the longterm) for sake of saving a couple of quid.

AHA............. you ere correct man. spot on.
perhaps MSPammer4