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17.06.2007 at 21:55:50
 
As much as I enjoy reading the mag, I have noticed that the forum seldom gets a mention. i thought it would be in the interest of Kelsey publishing to promote the forum, and to bring more members to the fray.

I used to buy a trucking magazine a while ago and they would regularly print quotes from postings made on their online forum (which I was also a member of, but I got fed up talking about trucks after driving them all day)

If you don't have a 'puter and buy the magazine, you would think that the forum doesn't exist Sad

Incidentally, I only found this forum by accident, after googling something (I can't remember what) and this site came up first, and the rest, as they say, is history Smiley

Other than that, liking the mag very much Smiley

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Reply #1 - 17.06.2007 at 23:25:02
 
It's a good point Dan...and one that Archie has pushed in the past.  There was a mention about 12 months ago about the forum and prompting our handmade window sticker.  You would have thought the Magazine and Forum would self promote each other but it doesn't appear to be the case.  Althougth the magazine has taken the odd question or comment from the forum for inclusion in the letters page they do seem to be treated as seperate entities.

Does everyone on the forum read JWM magazine or subscribe to it? I've been reading it (the magazine) since issue 1 when it was Jaguar Quarterly.  In fact if you dig out issue 2 you will find they printed a letter from me saying how good the magazine was.

We don't seem to discuss many of the articles on this forum...if I suspected the editor read more of the comments I would be inclined to provide more feedback on the content.
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Reply #2 - 18.06.2007 at 01:11:28
 
Does everyone on the forum read JWM magazine or subscribe to it?

yes I used to, from 1996 to 2000.  I loved it, the only car magazine I subscribed to, and I haven't subscribed to any other since. I did complain to Paul Skilleter about the binding change, it cheapened the publication, they must have heard me because they came back to the "squared" binding. I still have all issues, a couple of the Blue JW Binders, and a number of Posters and videos I ordered in those 4 years. I still browse through the old issues, it's a real good magazine, even @ 10 years old.

the reasons I stopped subscribing are two:

1)  the magazine became very oriented to XJ-S and modern Saloons, so I couldn't relate to the magazine any more, being that my 2 Jags are old, a 1984 and a 1965, and that's where I have remained. The magazine's restoration projects became fewer and fewer.

2)  the subscription service in the US left a lot to be desired, in the sense that the US representative for JW was/is not a very user-friendly business, a number of times I did not receive my copy, which was mailed from the US representative's business, and when I called to complain, it took them 2 months to replace it. At the same time they charged a very high price for a 1 yr. subscription, and for that kind of money, you would expect better service, like 1st Class mail, not 4th Class.

To be fair, the Editor and another Kelsey gentleman told me that they would send my copy directly if I would continue my subscription, (I was very honored by the offer), but reason #1 was still a factor, I was getting bored with modern Jaguars on the cover. I wanted more on the Small and Big Saloons of the 1950's and 1960's, which of course, nobody bothers with.

I also found this forum by accident, while searching for Jaguar Parts Classifieds. (Jag Ads took me to the forum).

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Reply #3 - 18.06.2007 at 11:37:00
 
I buy the magazine very rarely, perhaps twice in the last 4 years.

The main reason being that I felt there was too much emphasis on the current range of Jaguars and not enough on the XJS or the older classic Jags.

This forum, however is great with a real mix of information and people. I like the way the message boards are divided so I only have to read what is relavant to me. All the members are fantasic and able to answer just about any question imaginable.

I found this site by chance in a general google search for XJS information soon after buying the car

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Reply #4 - 18.06.2007 at 18:41:39
 
Hi all, Just to let you know that Matt skelton has re-acted in a very positive way to your thoughts and there will be a permanent link to the Forum on the 'Letters' page of the magazine from September onwards.
Great input, thanks Dan and all.
N.B. I also asked about Forum Cards for members. This was requested by Roly and (I think, Dan, but I can't find the posts now!). The response was that it would not be a feasible idea to provide cards for every member. I can see that the logistics would be difficult! Allow the mods one small priviledge!?
Cheers, Archie.
P.S. Jacqeline, Time to buy your third copy? Smiley
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Reply #5 - 18.06.2007 at 18:52:40
 
P.S. Jacqeline, Time to buy your third copy? Grin Grin Grin

Archie, give her time to find her dad's Police S type first, then she can buy another copy of JW, where it will be the feature car. Unfortunately, I think that car is in Australia or the US.

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Reply #6 - 18.06.2007 at 20:20:41
 
apax wrote on 18.06.2007 at 18:41:39:
Hi all, Just to let you know that Matt skelton has re-acted in a very positive way to your thoughts and there will be a permanent link to the Forum on the 'Letters' page of the magazine from September onwards.
Great input, thanks Dan and all.



You are most welcome, Archie, and that's great news about the link Smiley

And David, I agree, it would be good to discuss some of the articles from the magazine, here on the forum, as there are some really interesting features in the magazine that are worth discussing. Maybe more effort from our good-selves is needed in this area! Smiley

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Reply #7 - 19.06.2007 at 11:13:45
 
Wow Jos, Australia or the US!

Have you discovered a possible lead then
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Reply #8 - 19.06.2007 at 14:35:04
 
no - just a wild guess  Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - 07.07.2007 at 16:13:18
 
I've been subscribing to JWM for over two years now, since first buying an XK8. I used to buy the odd issue even before that. However, it's only today that I found out that there is a JWM Forum, having found the link on another Jaguar forum site  Embarrassed



Having registered, I now realise I am a member of 5 different Jaguar Forums plus PistonHeads.

I really do need to get a life  Embarrassed
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Reply #10 - 07.07.2007 at 16:30:54
 
well, welcome and when you do get a life, let me know the recipe because I belong to 7 forums myself.  Grin

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Reply #11 - 08.07.2007 at 03:08:05
 
How on earth do you guys do it! I joined the JEC XJS Forum but found that I couldn't keep up to date with the reading. I wanted to join the Jaguar Forum, but decided that I couldn't do it justice. This Forum already takes more of my time than I care to measure!
I have thought about it and I realise that my problem is to do with time spent on conventional reading, as follows -
Newspaper every day, read fairly thoroughly - 1 hour
Weekly - Professional magazine to keep abreast of my trade knowledge.
Monthly - JWM, JEC and JDC mags plus Top Gear (second hand from son-in-law).
Bedtime reading - usually a novel but currently non-fiction on the history of the Middle East issues.
I wonder why I have trouble fitting my work in!? Cheers, Archie.
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Reply #12 - 08.07.2007 at 03:17:31
 
do people actually READ newspapers still ?   Shocked
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Reply #13 - 08.07.2007 at 03:27:23
 
They seem to do so here. When there is a give away promotion they seem to fly off the shelves.
I personally think that there is always a place for hard copy - it's that tactile thing!
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Reply #14 - 08.07.2007 at 10:25:47
 
i am an active member of three Jaguar forums, two photography forums and a few other places,

i dont read newspapers, politically biased yesterdays old news if you ask me, sold on sensationalism ,

i read the JWM & JEC magazine once a month, but it usually only takes one evening to read the whole mag ,

that and i'm half way through a full loft conversion ( self build ) just finished the deck , as the summerhouse was moved onto it yesterday , and am restoring an XJS , lol

oh, and for the next three weeks i will be glued to the TV watching ' le tour ' ( the tour de france ) as i have seen it every year for the last 25 years  Cheesy

and in my free time, i relax with a cognac Grin

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Reply #15 - 08.07.2007 at 16:26:02
 
I am suprised you have any time for anything other than house and Jag restoration.

Between work and restoring our house I find very little time for anything other than sleeping, but do try to put aside a few hours to work on my family tree project, browse the internet or play a computer game or watch the odd video.
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Reply #16 - 08.07.2007 at 18:39:34
 
the reason I asked is because in the US, with the advent of CNN and all other instant-news channels who came after, Newspapers are going-out-of-business in every city, they can't give them away, much less sell them. Everything is old by the time they are printed, and then the ink stains in the hands and upholstery, well that's another story.

Then you have the issue of Font Size, they use such a small size that it simply is not legible without the Hobel Telescope.
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Reply #17 - 08.07.2007 at 22:21:05
 
This forum.Daily Torygraph and a Brandy Smiley
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Reply #18 - 09.07.2007 at 03:43:36
 
Jos, I can see that things must be different over there. Our print is very legible (only a bit less than this size in fact), ink staining issues disappeared years ago, and the topics in that days paper are borrowed by the topical discussion programmes on the radio. Then of course, there are the free scratch cards........ Roll Eyes Cheers, Archie.
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Reply #19 - 14.07.2007 at 22:48:12
 
I remember being told that the UK has a higher newspaper reading population than anywhere else in Europe. Perhaps we`re just nosy. Wink
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Reply #20 - 15.07.2007 at 12:54:28
 
Well we have got to have something to wrap our chips in!
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Reply #21 - 16.07.2007 at 05:54:24
 
Extra!  Extra!  Yesterday's News delivered Tomorrow! Grin
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Reply #22 - 19.07.2007 at 22:45:23
 
But in greater depth, with informed commentary, different perspectives and offering a 'flavour' that TV soundbites can`t match.

So..yeah...If I want to know what happened yesterday I`ll get tomorrow`s paper 'cos CNN/BBC didn`t get the half of it. Wink
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Reply #23 - 20.07.2007 at 00:46:14
 
Thanks John, I knew that there was more than one reason why I read newspapers!
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Reply #24 - 15.08.2007 at 23:45:14
 
newspapers i just buy them for the CDs got a boot full now Grin
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Reply #25 - 16.08.2007 at 12:20:57
 
........and don't forget the Sudoku - got to keep the Alzheimers at bay Sad.

To get back on thread.........I too found the forum by accident despite getting JWM religiously for the last 5 years. It can get a bit samey but there's always a few articles of interest to make me want to buy next month's.
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trx wrote on 15.08.2007 at 23:45:14:
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What would you want with a boot full of papers!   Grin

I found this forum when I did a search for another Jaguar Forum.  But still get the JWM magazine and JEC magazine.   Smiley
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Reply #27 - 13.09.2009 at 18:44:26
 
Hi  just like to say i have bought and still have   every copy  of jaguar monthly  jaguar world  magazine  and have on several  occasions wrote  in  long before  i found  this forum  although my  car is  well known  to  both the jec  & the jdc  i never got a  reply  i gave up in the end  it  would be  nice to get  a picture  in  the magazine i wonder  does the editor  read the forum

                             Regards Bryan Thomas  XJ-SC 3.6  841 BRY Undecided Roll Eyes
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Reply #28 - 13.09.2009 at 19:14:36
 
Hi Bryan, I have referred this to Kelsey for their information. I personally think that your car would make a good basis for an article of some kind, but my influence is very limited (I should say non existent!!).
I would also like more exposure for our 'family friendly' Forum, but there are limits on magazine space, and we do have a link on the letters page which was provided as a result of this particular thread. Regards, Archie.
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Reply #29 - 13.09.2009 at 19:56:34
 
Thanks  Archie   may be   they will see  the car at the   NEC  and get some  pics there     Wink  Undecided
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Reply #30 - 14.09.2009 at 00:23:43
 
I've had a couple of letters printed over the years...even had one in issue 2 with it was Jaguar Quarterly over 20 years ago and had a picture of my car in one issue...can't remember why.  I think it was one of those XJS model guide type articles.

I've been a subscriber since day 1 but don't keep my magazines for more than a couple of months.

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Reply #31 - 14.09.2009 at 16:13:50
 
Matt Skelton has committed to reviewing the Forum link in the magazine, to see if it can be made more noticeable.
No feedback yet on Bryan's car. They get a lot of letters from people about possible articles though, I'm sure. Patience and persistence may win the day! Regards, Archie.
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