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20.09.2011 at 23:22:35
Hi all,
As threatened, my restoration project on my 1992 (on a K)
XJS 4.0L auto.
I got this car with 119k miles on the clock and a full Jaguar main dealer history. The car is mechanically excellent (as far as I can tell so far) and structurally very sound.
As I got it (ignore the black paint on the roof as I put this on there as a srt of guide coat)
The body, wings, bootlid, bootfloor, floorpan, doors are all sound as shown in the pics below:
Now the bad bits! The paintwork has extensive lacquer peel, is this usual on these cars? The bonnet has been dented beyond economic repair by some toerag walking on it before I bought it
, just before in fact! Luckily I sourced a replacement bonnet in the same colour but could have done without the extra work.
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20.09.2011 at 23:52:39
The main areas of rust were the ends of the sills (surprise), the rear lower quarters (surprise, surprise), some rust on the inner wing (which I hadn't noticed!), a tiny section of rust on the bit above the rear cross member, and some rust on the rear valance (not surprising due to the lack of drainage for this section!):
Welded and prime with epoxy primer.
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20.09.2011 at 23:59:13
The work begins!!
First cutting out the rusty bits back to sound metal, for example:
The panel behind the rear lower quarters were also rusted so I cut sections out them too.
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21.09.2011 at 00:07:35
The welding begins!
I welded all the bits necessary, then primed with POR-15 or Lechler Epoxy 2k primer (which I can recommend) or both as required. Note the rear lower quater panels have only been cut back enough to get to the rear an front panels yet, I will remove them later.
POR-15/ Epoxy primer applied inside all bits before welding the final pieces on and inside where accesible to avoid rusting.
I will waxoyl/ dintrol all cavities at the end to add the final rust prevention.
The rear lower quarters I am seriously thinking of using fibreglass replacement panels as these areas seem to be designed to rust!
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21.09.2011 at 00:37:48
Future plans are to fininsh the bodywork, I will only take it back to bare metal where absolutely necessary as the metal is galvanised and I beleive where paint is sound then its best not removed. I will epoxy primer the bare metal (and other bits) before appling filler and then anther layer of epoxy primer and then 2K primer filler where required.
The interior leather is going to be refurbished.
The chrome is in excellent condition but a couple of bits are dented so I will replace those.
The wood inside needs restoring, I am looking for the door wood trims if possible.
Because the wood is elm and is aged it's difficult to buy new veneer to match it, any ideas, anyone?
I will take it to a very good professional bodywork shop to have it painted to my specification.
The wheels will also be refurbished in powder coat.
I wil then finally sort out the underseal, which is in good condition but you never know whats under there! I have poked around fairly extensively so should be no surprises I hope.
Are there any drawbacks to using fibreglass rear lower quarters? other than not being original.
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22.09.2011 at 01:46:59
Left with the feeling that from the pics, your car has all the hallmarks of standard Jag rust which you are sorting correctly
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22.09.2011 at 12:40:32
Welding is just one of those skills I aspire too. Poor me all I have is a 2 speed gasless mig welder.
This is a quality "facelift" they don't rust. Must be taken from an earlier vehicle and superimposed. Foot-well issue probably a result of blocked air-con drains.
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22.09.2011 at 14:38:50
Welding!!!! Not the faintest idea either and would not attempt! Seen several pics and read several reports on here and facebook about classic cars catching fire during welding if they have been wayoyled so getting a bit twitchy as mine was waxoyled a year ago! how safe is the combination of waxoyl and welding I am wondering. My car apparently now has a silver boot lid on it which needs spraying
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22.09.2011 at 14:40:41
Thanks,
I think the main cause of rust on these sills is the mastic they put into the seams without prepainting the galvanised metal. Once the water gets behind it it stays in there and promotes the rust. Hence the fairly extansive use of POR-15 and epoxy primer, before I put the seam sealer on and then I will waxoyl thoroughly after it's been painted.
The rear lower quarters always seem to be rusty to some extent, hence I'm considering the fibreglass option.
There's not much wrong with the footwells, just mainly dirty, I will clear the air-con drains though as you suggest.
Getting the roof and boot 'flat' is taking a long time!
Nick, invest in a gas mig and an autodarkening helmet, it makes it so much easier. I've heard that the quality of gasless wire makes a difference a recent comment i read on UKSaabs was "Lincoln Innershield is a good gasless wire, albeit a bit more expensive than others. ..."
The main problem with gas migs is the getting the gas at a reasonable price, I've just finished my BOC argoshield bottle and have no way of getting it refilled!
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22.09.2011 at 14:49:27
Jaqueline,
What bit of your car needs welding? Careful dismantling to gain as much access to the front and rear of the weld and removal of the waxoyl in the local area plus some cold-front or wet towels, a CO2 fire extiguisher and preferably an accomplice to fire-watch is what I use.
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23.12.2011 at 00:12:08
Some recent pics,
Front panel was rotten so removed, lower valance was good so cleaned and painted with epoxy primer
New front panel also painted with epoxy primer
Rear lower quaters replaced in fibreglass so the never rot again!! Rivets painted with epoxy primer just because I'm compulsive I guess!
More pics of the car just before being ready to take to paintshop.
Note the rear valance was welded, derusted, epoxy primered then stone chip paint applied. It will be painted the same colour as the rest of the car.
Stone chip was only applied to the underside of the sills, as original I believe, because I prefer the smooth finish.
I'v also been restoring the wood work, a long labour of love/ hate. Stripped it all down to veneer then applied umpteen coats of rustins plastic wood, flatting between coats, and a final polish at the end.
As they were before,
and finally
Very happy with how they came out, in the end.
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05.01.2012 at 23:08:46
More pics of the wood
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05.01.2012 at 23:11:53
I finished colour coding the wheel centres to Falmeco Red.
I will fit them when the car is finished!!
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05.01.2012 at 23:14:13
I had to refurbish the headlining as well, surprise. bought the material from Woolies trim.
Now to refit it
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05.01.2012 at 23:16:40
First pics of the car resprayed
Wheels all refurbished and looking good!
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05.01.2012 at 23:19:59
Back home for reasembly
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06.01.2012 at 22:48:35
very nice looking car its credit to you.
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very nice looking car its credit to you.
I agree.. but are there any close up pics of the welds?
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07.01.2012 at 02:03:26
There are lots of pics below but not very close up.
I've been welding for 30 years now (on and off, not professionally) and my welding, although not pretty, is very sound. I grind the welds back on visible bodywork and then apply a hammer to check that they are strong! Where not visible or not visually important I leave them alone but still apply the hammer test.
I also use weld through primer and galvanised metal (cleaning off the galvanising locally to the weld) and epoxy primer/ por15 in all accessible areas prior to closing off. I then waxoyl/ dinitrol thoroughly through access holes.
I hate rust!!!! I can't beat it but I'm giving it my best shot!
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It looks like the project's coming together nicely. When's your estimated completion?
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08.01.2012 at 02:39:15
Is a project ever completed??? My Saab isn't!!!
I plan to get it driving within a few weeks then have the leather seats refurbished hopefully.
Just been fitting the boot carpet loosely back in, I need some spray adhesive or carpet tape, still don't remember where a couple of bits fitted. I also fitted the rear bumper.
I broke one of the clips to hold the sunvisor in and one of the square side indicator lights.
Can't see why they changed from the earlier ones as they look much better IMO.
Does anyone know what bulb/fitting goes into the glovebox light. It's not a t10 or anything else Ive got lying around.
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06.02.2012 at 12:16:44
Ok figured out what the "light fitting" in the glove compartment is!!
Snow stopped play yesterday.....
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06.03.2012 at 15:18:33
Very lovely job, the paint just gleems. I wish I knew how to weld.
I'm new to the board and a very young XJS owner, 23
but adore Jaguars, especially the XJS. Well done for getting one looking so lovely!
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Thanks
Looks better now with snow cleared off and most of the chrome back on. Carpets and interior cleaned and those wheel centres fitted.
Get yourself to a short mig welding course or buy a reasonable 2nd hand welder and a auto-dim mask and gloves. Get some old panels and practice. It's really not that difficult. Join Mig-welding.co.uk forum for some great advice.
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Some missing pics drom the painting process
Freddie the painter posing
Further work done
Replaced front shock absorbers
Rebuilt steering rack tower as it was leaking at a vast rate!!
MOT passed with just two advisories,
steering rack leaking, which turned out to be a crack in the steering fluid reservoir, now replaced,
and slight corrosion on bodywork. I looked underneath and the only slight corrosion I could see was on the front lower wishbones and spring bottom, not really significant to warrant an advisory
but it bugged me so I took care of it
Rust treatment applied after wire brushing etc.
Painted with rustproofing paint
I will apply some underseal later as well.
Have also sourced and fitted new seats for the front in excellent condition, thanks Southwestjags.
All the electrics work as well, no more niggles!!!
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Since the original project thread there's been more work done.
New windscreen, quite a palaver with the windscreen company who hadn't done one before, but looks nice now.
New front shocks
The car has been dinitrol thoughly!
The interior has been redyed with two like new front seats.
The interior now looks excellent
Power steering rack tower rebuilt
Cracked the power steering resevoir in the process and had to replace it!
Passed MOT, due for a new one now but it will pass no problem.
All electrics now working
What's it worth as I need to sell it , unfortunately, to fund my XJC project?
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What's it worth as I need to sell it , unfortunately, to fund my XJC project?
You'll need to get it fully finished, on the road, full MOT, then a value can be placed upon it.
With a proper description, list of work carried out, it should do OK at an auction.
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It's finished, taxed, insured, on the road and still has a couple of months MOT left but I will put a new MOT on it when I sell it. It's also got a full main dealer history until I bought it and has only done 1k or so miles since then. I've changed the oil. plugs. rotor arm and cap, power steering fluid.
Just trying to get an idea of price to set it at given the work I've put in to it. I wasn't going to sell this originaly but the xjc came up and ..........
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More photos!!
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And some more..
Haven't done much with the engine bay.
A bit different from when I first started!!
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Very nice! totally different car to when you first got it, well done. I always get a great deal of satisfaction from a rebuild, especially when you unmask it and refit all the chrome, all the hours of lying upside down welding some how seem worth it. whats next?
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Thanks, I love the colour too.
I know, great feeling. Makes you sort of envy having to sell it to someone who didn't put the work in or appreciate how much work went into it.
Next is to sell it, unfortunately as I've got the XJC project to start when the weather warms up!!!
Sort of looking forward and not looking forward to it as it a total rust bucket!!! Lots of cutting out and welding. I've got most of the panels I need except the floorpans. which I know are available from David Manners (unless someones got a pair going cheaper).
I'm alos plannig to buy a plasma cutter to make life a bit easier.
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Plasma cutters are great tools, as is a TIG welder, Mig is good for general welding, but TIG is so much more controlable, less distortion and no sparks!
I.ve got a classic Mini waiting major surgery in the summer, can't wait... Brian
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Always wanted one ever since I used one about 20 years ago. It was a big industrial unit which cost thousands. I thought then about producing and marketing a version for the DIY market. Unfortunately life and work got in the way!!
I remember various people told me that there would not be any demand for them!!
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