maybe people's jags are not going wrong and this is because they can't afford to put fuel in them.. like me.

roly

espacilly when it costs 100 pound to fill the tank 

Hah! This is a good one eh? 'Forum Comments and Suggestions' has been turned in 'Gossip and Chat'. Brian's original comment had serious intent (to encourage members to post) but I personally do not really believe that any post is better than none! Cheers, apax.

Here's a 'Forum Comment & Suggestion' then Archie:

Make Roly a moderator!

I know it sounds daft, but poacher turned gamekeeper and all that. It would stop him posting in the wrong forum sections.

Whatdya think. . . ? 

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Hi SV8, Can't believe that you don't realise that Roly is a Moderator so maybe I'm missing some humour from you somewhere?
My point was not just about where posts occurr but the frustrating flippancy on the subject.
I'm sure I'm not alone in tiring of reading airheaded and irrelevant comments better suited to Twitter! Cheers, apax

He shouldn't be, there was no attribution!
Missed the irony!!!! Cheers, apax.

Well let's get the thread back on topic then. . .

(Roly doesn't pay any attention to me Archie, he always gives as good as he gets.)

Now the Jaguar internet forum world is a slightly strange place. Because the two main clubs have such dire forums, there (of course) have been a number of internet forums spring up to cater for the modern Jaguar enthusiast.

I will speak as I find and i think this Jaguar World Monthly forum is. . .


the best Jaguar forum on the net, at least in the UK (by saying that I haven't found any better overseas-based ones though).

But the problem with Jaguar enthusiasts (as a sweeping 'in general' sort of way), is that they don't seem to be 'forum people'. I only say that as I observe that these are not very busy forums.

Now, the jaguarforum.co.uk is quite busy, but I think not kept busy by 'club' members, more by people who cannot afford to run a Jaguar and want to know where they can buy second-hand parts, and whinge about the quality when they spend their life savings on a £25 carpet set from eBay.

Sorry, I'm being sarcastic (again), it is a very good forum and there are lots of knowlegeable people on there. But it's not a 'Jaguar-person' type of forum and you don't get any sense of 'family' or club atmosphere.

But this forum (although not as busy) is better. Does that make sense? There are the large number of knowledgeable people on here and a genuine question is usually answered very quickly with the (correct) answer. And, it is a real 'family'.

There are more real enthusiasts on here, and thus the forum has almost become a 'club' itself.

It might be quieter over the past few weeks because the JEC has put a set of jump leads onto its forum and it has gasped and coughed itself back into life. No real explanation as to why it was put 'offline' for months and months on end, but yes, it's back. But it's just as it was before and it has very little traffic.

And I find all this quite bizarre for a marque like Jaguar? We should have the biggest, most exciting, thriving internet community on the net. The marque encompasses the most 'classic' of classic cars, right up to the most 'exciting' of modern and current cars. What is it about Jaguar people and internet forums?

Some of you are probably aware that I am the Administrator of the Jensen Owners' Club forum http://www.joc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

The JOC is a very small club, about 1450 members (what is the JEC, 70,000+?) but we have a very successful and thriving forum. It started (as this forum did) about six years ago, but has had more messages posted than this Jaguar forum.

Now to me, that is bizarre. Why are 'Jensen people' more willing to get involved and contribute to an internet forum than 'Jaguar people'? It's a strange one and I cannot answer it, but I would have thought any proper Jaguar forum would have run rings around a Jensen forum, with the number of members (and cars) involved.

So, to conclude, it is not only this JWM forum that has be quiet of late, it is a 'Jaguar' thing. And I still think this is the best Jaguar forum and we should all be quite proud of what has been achieved so far.

So far? Yes, get stuck in! This is your forum, it is the key to a vast amount of knowledge, and the key to your enjoyment of you Jaguar and the Jaguar marque.

(Of course, if you also have a Jensen, you know where to go. . .)

Isn't that right, Alan?

Jacqueline wrote on 16.10.2011 at 22:34:46:


That's a very good point Jacqueline,

The member count of over 2500 means very little when there's only 20 or 30 regular forum posters.

I see Forum membership has now broken the 4,000 barrier, about 1500 new members in the last couple of months... a shame none of them seem to post !Are these new members Jag owners or just browsing ? I'd like to think ownership is  reaching far and wide, but even if you don't own a Jaguar, you are very welcome on the Forum, let us know how you feel about Jaguars...all welcome.


                                 Best wishes Brian

Well i don't have the powers to remove these spammers as you call them.. I can only remove their posts(if the do post).As you say there are pages of them.. and the odd real name amongst them.

roly

Being a recent member of this forum I would make the following comments of my experiences to date on this forum (compared to other car forums where I have been a member for a number of years)

There is no way to welcome new members - usual on most internet forums.  "Newbies" need to feel wanted and loved 

Technical assistance appears limited compared to others - maybe because "Jaguar" encompasses many models. 

Absence of technical guru usually found and revered on other car forums, who can answer most technical issues.

Seems to be an absence of real humour and friendliness - people must realise that quite often "humourous" comments made in print may well offend, compare to the same comments made "face to face" - I've already experenced this on this forum.

Whilst you have an area for "News, Gossip and General Chat" quite often other forums cater for more "extreme" humour - jokes - a real ice breaker

Just a few of my personal observations

Since Matt Skelton the JWM editor left the forum last year..i have had no contact with the new editor and i assume the new man in control of the forum. I have emailed various people on the magazine about forum and members problems but I have had no reply.

I assume we have been forgotten about.

roly

Roley:

I've taken a week off to concentrate on my latest book (doesn't that sound pretentious) but I'll be back in the office on Monday and rest assured, I'll be giving the boys at JWM grief.

The situation as it stands is quite ridiculous and cannot continue.

I shall report back. . .

tried phonning kelsey but just got a message about opening hrs but no bleep to leave a message...



























bleeep. pls leave a message

I did say it sounded pretentious, but there's no reason to labout the point.

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To go back a few years, I used to do Church Bell Ringing. A woman on her way to church insisted I should atttend the service.

My semi polite decline to her offer included the words " Christianity is a Dead Religion" Woman replied, dont be silly, Christianity cannot be dead, our GOD wont let it       

We do all appreciate your efforts Roly, even if we dont always say it. So from me one mega massive big "THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS" Never once regretted the day I nominated you for the thankless task of moderating and running the show for us, you do a fantastic job and always have done. Your knowledge and love of Jags in truly inspirational and a joy to read       

Pockets wrote on 21.04.2012 at 08:32:32:

yea he will get stuck up

You stuck up Roly, No way at all. Think you are a truly genuine, kind hearted, down to earth guy who will do pretty much anyone for anyone     

Steadily being cleared out. Hopefully in a couple of days the membership figure will reflect genuine members. Although the way the board has been of late, there's only a handful of 'regular' posters.

Hopefully we can turn that around in coming weeks.

See the N/A syndrome has raised its ugly head again!!

My research is showing that this may be a server space issue. Perhaps backups being stored on the same server.

Things were OK until Saturday evening when it has all started up again. So although I keep 'rebuilding' the message index (not a chore, it's only one click!) these pesky N/A messages are appearing regularly.

The threads and posts are still in each section though, so don't let it put you off using the forum.

I will get it sorted by hook or by crook (eventually). . .

I "think" we're getting there Brian, the upset last weekend was a monster!

But there's a lot goes on behind the scenes that are not visible to the forum in general. We are literally being attacked every few minutes by bogus registrations. Changes that I have implemented mean that these registrations are not validated (thus they do not actually become proper members) unless I approve them.

But that means all these registrations need to be checked. If they are obvious spammer-type user names then I just delete them, and so far this is working.

Other forums I have locked down and thus new registrations have to email the admin to become members but I am leaving this one open to try and encourage genuine new registrations.

I feel we have the potential to (once again) turn this into a very friendly and useful resource for Jaguar owners and enthusiasts.

So, onwards and upwards!