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31.12.2011 at 15:49:51
Hi ,
my car has been suffering from a rear end wobble for a long time now and at last has been diagnosed as worn drive shaft UJ's . Anybody tackled this job and any special tools needed .
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Hi ,
my car has been suffering from a rear end wobble for a long time now and at last has been diagnosed as worn drive shaft UJ's . Anybody tackled this job and any special tools needed .
Al S.S.O.C
a copper hammer and patience man..
will you take shaft right off or just one end and grovel underneath??
(make sure it aint the output shaft bearings giving you the vibes.. i felt em on the dash on mine.. they werre buggared but still past the MOT.. in eastbourne
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and of cousre circlip pliers
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Happy New Year Roly ,
I think the XJ8 set up is different to our old models ,I have been under there to do the shocks but I'm blowed if I can remember .
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Al i have lost the plot.. thought you were posting in "our" section...
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18.01.2012 at 01:51:51
Hi to all ,
nobody left any helpfull advice so can only presume none of you have tackled this job , so I will leave some instead .
No special tools needed and it's just a straight forward job of undoing nuts and bolts to get the shafts out and the UJ's just knock out as normal .
One last tip , try to do this job on a warm day if working outside , -2 took all the fun out of it
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18.01.2012 at 16:38:37
Hi Al...Did it cure the wobble ?? On my X300 I have a 'shudder' that comes from the n/s/rear over rough roads, more noticable if you are pressing on a bit
I've had a good look for cause and the car has gone through 3 MOT's with not even an advisory, I wonder if it could be the UJ's.
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23.01.2012 at 12:24:56
Brian - I would suspect worn A frame bushes - soft but not slack enogh to fail MOT. Could also be the bushes in the diagonal tie rods - these soften and MOT testers hardly bother looking at them.
Alan - what was the torque on the driveshaft to hub nuts? - these are often too tight for 1/2 drive kit.
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23.01.2012 at 22:27:57
Yeah, come on Al, surely you've warmed up by now?
We want to know if it cured the wobble!
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24.01.2012 at 12:33:53
Hi Roly – Mine looks something to your but with the added bonus of outboard brakes. Trouble is I have a bit of an issues with a noise which I cannot for the life of me pin down. One minute I reckon it’s a wheel bearing the next a pinion or diff issue. I’m hoping to get it on a lift this weekend to have a look.
How difficult/easy is it to drop the rear cradle? I’m assuming the worst in it being the diff!
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24.01.2012 at 19:06:37
I think Al must be on holiday!! Anyway, have replaced my A frame bushes to-day in an attempt to cure this 'shudder' from n/s//r will road test to-morrow, hope for the best
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Hello to all you impatient people , seasons greetings (yes I know it's late)
Anyway , to answer the question did it stop the wobble , yes to a point , very much improved , however it has not cured it totally , I will be having new tyres and the 4 wheel tracking done next . Possibly the prop-shaft UJs might need replacing next if no luck .
Torque setting for the hub-nut , this was done by an educated guess , these can be found in the educated guess section of the manual you don't have
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Nice to hear from you again Al, replaced the A frame bushes on my car yesterday, cured the shudder
the old bushes looked and felt OK but must have gone soft, I suppose after 15 yrs and 108,000 miles not too bad, easy job to do once I had made an extractor/install tool. Might even get around to fitting the front shocker poly bushes I bought 18 months ago.
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Brian wrote
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Nice to hear from you again Al, replaced the A frame bushes on my car yesterday, cured the shudder
the old bushes looked and felt OK but must have gone soft, I suppose after 15 yrs and 108,000 miles not too bad, easy job to do once I had made an extractor/install tool. Might even get around to fitting the front shocker poly bushes I bought 18 months ago.
Brian
Hi Brian , this tool that you have made for the bushes can we see a photo please , and can it be used without the need to remove the A-Frame ? .
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26.01.2012 at 09:11:55
I tried to replace A frame bushes without removing frame from car - got old bush out Ok by hacking them to bits / chisel / hacksaw.
When I tried to push new bush in from underside it got about 2/3rds way in then the car started to lift so I had to take frame off. Pushed in easily in 10 tonne press.
Driveshaft nut - manual says about 300 ft/lbs (from memory) I did not have 3/4 drive socket handy and had to weld a 1/2 inch drive to the end of a bit of 1 inch NB pipe.
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Al, will take some photos to-morrow, made tool from bits and pieces found in workshop, enables bushes to be removed installed without removing A frame. It took me about an hour once tool was made(each side)
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I tried to replace A frame bushes without removing frame from car - got old bush out Ok by hacking them to bits / chisel / hacksaw.
When I tried to push new bush in from underside it got about 2/3rds way in then the car started to lift so I had to take frame off. Pushed in easily in 10 tonne press.
Driveshaft nut - manual says about 300 ft/lbs (from memory) I did not have 3/4 drive socket handy and had to weld a 1/2 inch drive to the end of a bit of 1 inch NB pipe.
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"WOW" 300ft/lb if mine were that tight I'm suprised I managed to loosen them at all . Could you please check that figure again as I will definetly have to tighten up again .
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here is a couple of photos of tool I made up to remove install A frame bushes on my X300, same as X308
OPPS will try to resize and post again Brian....bloody mobile phones
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02.02.2012 at 00:01:26
another, the large threaded cylinder is a 4" pipe nipple, left over from a fitting job I did, the a bush fits inside this when extracted. the other tool pulls the bush back into the frame,just tighten nut.
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Are you sure you are fitting bushes to a Jaguar Brian and not your Tractor
just how big are these bushes on the A-frame ?
All joking aside I can see how they work and if it saves taking the frame out I think it's a great idea .
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Al, I may live in Wisbech...but I am NOT a carrot cruncher !!the nearest I get to anything agricultural is a Range Rover, and then only under duress. Replaced the o/s A frame bush yesterday, the n/s was the one knocking, but having done one, might as well do the pair. This was much tighter than the n/s, just as well my tool was of the heavy duty variety, when pulling the bush out it is worth triming the rubber which protudes from the top of the bush before assembling tool, as this jams up as the bush squashes, have included a coupl of photos, the flash photos make the rust stand out, it does not look like that in 'real' life
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another, bush half out
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here you can see where the rubber gets trapped, trim up and it then pulls through ok.
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All back together
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P.S Note the winter tyres,,really glad I fitted them, woke this morning to 4-5 inches of snow, at least they give the XJ some traction !!
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Nice job Brian , tell me what is all that white stuff ? never seen that in the countryside before
Alan S.S.O.C
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Just an up-date on my wobble
had new tyres fitted all round and tracked up , another big improvement , I think this has just about cured it but thinking of fitting new wheel bearings as these are becoming noisey now .
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