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08.03.2012 at 21:07:14
 
A few of you may recognise it, but I haven’t posted any photos of my Jaguar on here for a while. The thread is very picture heavy.

Anyway, this is my ‘92 Jaguar Sovereign. It’s a 3.2 which is a fairly rare car these days, and though it was built in October 1992, it is a 1993 model with the battery in the boot.

I have owned it a long time and it has a huge sentimental value to me because it was once my late father’s company car.

This Sovereign was my dad’s second XJ40 – my dad bought one of the first cars made, a Westminster blue 3.6, back in 1987. He generally kept cars a long time so when he came to trade my Sovereign in some years later the offers he received for it were very low. He knew I liked it so he gave it to me, and I have owned it ever since.

Because of this, the car has had less changes of owner than most XJ40s so there are very complete service records for it, running to a couple of hundred pages now of old bills and receipts, together with most of the old tax discs and all the old MOT certificates. They’re nice things to have, along with the original brochures.

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Unfortunately, I only got a digital camera in 2008, so I don’t have many old photos of the car.

Here are a few photos from when the car was fairly new, taken by my dad on holiday in France. The caption for this photo my dad wrote says “France 1985”; that can’t be right so I’m thinking perhaps mid 1990s?

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I can imagine him taking these with his old Olympus Trip 35, not quite capturing the whole bonnet.

Here is another photo, taken in the South West on a very narrow lane for a Jag! It is from about the same time.

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Here is 528JRB with my dad, sadly taken not long before he died.

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This is what it is like now; the photo was taken in May 2011:

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Reply #1 - 08.03.2012 at 21:31:49
 
My XJ40 has been amazingly reliable – it really never goes wrong!
     
For rust on the other hand it rivals Roly’s Majestic! At the risk of knocking Roly’s Majestic from the number one spot on Google for the search “Jaguar XJ40 Bulkhead rust”, here are a few pictures of the bodywork!!!

I took it to a few body shops but surprisingly most didn’t want to touch the car - or their plan for it was basically bodging and wouldn’t last.
Eventually I stumbled across Autofusion-uk, on the  RetroRides forum http://www.autofusion-uk.co.uk/ I liked the look of their work, and they are close to me (in Leigh Lancs. – I am in Cheshire) so I went to visit. They were working on a ‘Seventies Alpina at the time and the work they did on that was excellent, leaving the car looking like it had never needed any repairs.

Here it is in the body shop. Both front wings are off and the dreaded inner wings are rusty – mine is probably worse than average, but rust here is typical of the later XJ40s. Again, I hope there are not too many photos.

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Here is what greeted me when I went to see my car.

Right hand side: this is typical inner wing rust on the late XJ40. Water leaks in here and ends up on the front foot well floor. Lots of XJ40s have the luxury of a built in foot spa, though my car has strangely dry foot wells – completely dry even after driving through a thunderstorm, or leaving the car parked in the rain for a couple of days.


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It’s all properly crusty and flaky here and very weak. I kept a rust flake as a souvenir – it’s surprisingly heavy for a Bran flake.

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On to the passenger’s side (RHD car) - slightly better?

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It’s still very crusty this side though...

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Luckily, this is the only rust in this part of the car, and forward of this the body is still in good condition. Jaguar made a rather half hearted attempt at rust proofing though and the only paint on here is undercoat. I wonder if the lack of paint is the reason why some XJ40s rust so badly under the front wings?

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I wish I had Dinitroled it years ago…

The bulkhead is another late XJ40 weakness, but is in good condition on my car.

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And the left:
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The front door pillar on the driver’s side worried me. It had a significant area of rust, which had holed. I haven’t seen this on any other XJ40, so I feared it could be symptom of some unknown horrors lying within.

Luck was on my side – the rust was in the outer skin only, the inside of the pillar is as it came from the factory. Water leaking in from above saturated a square black foam insert, causing the pillar to rust out on the outer skin. All other areas of the pillar are rust free, unaffected and in the original Jaguar paint. All the rust was cut out.

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New metal was fabricated and tacked into place, then welded:

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The door pillar fits the wing and sill evenly down its length, with no variation of the gap. I'm hoping the repair will be invisible when it is painted.
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Reply #2 - 08.03.2012 at 21:48:30
 
Gray really struggled to fit the original wing to the car – it just wouldn’t sit right no matter what he did with it.  Nothing would work so he gave up and had a go with the new wing (part number CAP5122) and it went straight on so the old wing must be slightly warped – perhaps in a minor bump I had in 2003. The panel gaps seem to be excellent and may even have improved slightly from original. XJ40s were never known for their razor sharp panel gaps.

Though there are no problems forward of the sills (the XJ40 does not seem to rust in the suspension tower behind the shock absorbers like the X300 and X308 which can rust badly there and it is not a trivial repair), the right hand sill end has a lot of rust and needed to be completely replaced.

A design fault creates a rust trap filled with road debris. This becomes waterlogged and is particularly bad on cars with a sunroof – like mine. The pipe to the right of the photos is the sunroof drain.

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Luckily the sill end has rusted from the outside in and the rust is localised, so it could be cut back to good metal without a problem. There is classic XJ40 rust where the sill joins the floor at the front too, so rust was replaced with metal there at the same time.

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Reply #3 - 08.03.2012 at 22:30:03
 
The scuttle worried me. The top panel of the plenum was very rusty – to the point of brittleness – on both sides. Very little pressure was needed to hole them.

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I poked my finger down the hole here and felt the rust flakes give way down below. Not good. The area will need to be opened up to find out what is going on in there.

Strangely both foot wells on my car were always dry, but it could be that it was never exposed to enough water to fully saturate the soundproofing, then run down into the car. If it had been parked in the rain for a few days, then maybe I would have had duck pond foot wells too.

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The same place without the front wing:

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The top scuttle panel has now been removed, revealing the inside of the bulkhead, which, I am relieved to say, is in excellent rust free condition. The brown staining is dust sitting on the metal and on top of the seam sealer. It can be brushed off easily to reveal bright paintwork.

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The top of the right hand end piece of the scuttle panel. This is made from very thin metal, unlike the bulkhead below which is of much heavier grade.

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The underside of the same piece of metal. Water has got into this small rectangular compartment then been held there by what remains of the cavity’s foam filling. The foam was described as a rancid gelatinous slime. Water condensing on the underside of the top panel has rotted through the metal over time.

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However, the top panel is the extent of the rust. Despite the brown look on the photograph, the ‘compartment’ floor and sides are not rusty. The discolouration is a mixture of rust flakes and dust. The crunching sensation must have been my finger compressing the flaked remains of the top panel which had dropped through into the cavity. Some of the rust was close in texture to soil.

Overview of the inside of the bulkhead cavity, now the scuttle top panel has been removed:

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Closer in:

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The whole interior of the plenum is in excellent condition – again the brown areas are only dust.

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Photographed from the rear – there is a small area of rust where the bulkhead front meets the inner wing, but nothing more:

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The whole cavity viewed from the right hand side – no rust there:

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The small area of surface rust is the extent of it:
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The left hand side was in similar condition, but cleaner since the top panel was not so bad on this side.

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Here I have brushed away some of the dust to reveal clean metal. The area will need to be thoroughly vacuumed.

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And from the side across the plenum cavity from the left hand side (before the area was brushed clear of dust – it looks like rust in the photo, but isn’t!

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Again the whole structure is rust free:

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Clearly on my car water was not getting into the car from the bulkhead. Water getting into the car must have drained into the door pillars. It could explain why the cabin of mine remained dry, even though the car looked so rusty.

The corners of the plenum are a complex, triple skinned structure. Though I didn’t take any photos of the right hand side, it was reconstructed in the same way as Jaguar’s original three skin build. Some work has started on the left hand side, which had similar problems to the right:

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Reply #4 - 09.03.2012 at 00:26:52
 
excellent photos and titles man. I am glad you have found someone good to repair the car... seems you have got off "quite" lightly Wink Sad

after all the work done on mine.. i still get a wet passenger side.... but mine is outside all the time... interior has been out of mine twice now and wings done same as bulkhead... but i still get water on passenger side.but not straight away.. after rain carpets still dry(well i say carpets but there is none down).its a few days later the water seeps in.. so must be filling a cavity somewhere then flowing in...still aint found it and doubt i will bother now.
mine is been parked up since coming back from xjrestorations and has no tax or test.make sure your wings are treated on the inside before replacement.. mine were not... all saves for the future..
keep on saving em

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