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11.04.2012 at 22:16:20
 
Started work on the Cabriolet today in preparation for a trip to Classic Le Mans later in the year.

First job was to sort the ride height out at the front, what a faff just to get 2 3mm spacers in under the springs, still several hours later and it is all done. Next job was to pull the exhaust manifolds due to a blow (noticeable when cold not when hot), unfortunately the top rear stud appeared to be missing...Oh no there it is snapped off in the head a couple of mm below the face. Why did it have to be that one as it is so hard to get to...so in the end I left it for now while I ponder my options.

While under the car I was able to reattach the AJ6 Plus Torque Kit air feed to the anti roll bar as it had come detached and was just flapping about (a bit like me really)

Tomorrow afternoon another session to change the oil, adjust front wheel bearings, fit rear brace (the one that goes under the diff) and at last fit a new boot lock following my adventures in the summer when the lock jammed locked with stuff needed for a trip to Spa in the boot. Eventually sorted by drilling out the lock and we managed to catch a later ferry but it has been on my to do list for too long  Roll Eyes

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Reply #1 - 12.04.2012 at 06:51:30
 
Hi Marsta,

Nice to see another Cab having some attention.

You have reminded me that my front bearings need adjusting - are they fairly easy to do and do you need any special equipment?

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Reply #2 - 12.04.2012 at 07:25:34
 
Hi Roy,

Straightforward job, no special tools needed  Smiley Just dont tighten them up too much or will end in disaster.

Many years ago I adjusted some wheel bearings on an Alfa Sprint, only lasted another 50 odd miles before the bearings collapsed, it was my first time and I nipped them up too much Embarrassed

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Reply #3 - 12.04.2012 at 08:17:43
 
marsta wrote on 11.04.2012 at 22:16:20:
Started work on the Cabriolet today in preparation for a trip to Classic Le Mans later in the year.

First job was to sort the ride height out at the front, what a faff just to get 2 3mm spacers in under the springs, still several hours later and it is all done. Next job was to pull the exhaust manifolds due to a blow (noticeable when cold not when hot), unfortunately the top rear stud appeared to be missing...Oh no there it is snapped off in the head a couple of mm below the face. Why did it have to be that one as it is so hard to get to...so in the end I left it for now while I ponder my options.

While under the car I was able to reattach the AJ6 Plus Torque Kit air feed to the anti roll bar as it had come detached and was just flapping about (a bit like me really)

Tomorrow afternoon another session to change the oil, adjust front wheel bearings, fit rear brace (the one that goes under the diff) and at last fit a new boot lock following my adventures in the summer when the lock jammed locked with stuff needed for a trip to Spa in the boot. Eventually sorted by drilling out the lock and we managed to catch a later ferry but it has been on my to do list for too long  Roll Eyes

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DON'T even attempt to get broken stud out with an eezeout. Shocked
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Reply #4 - 12.04.2012 at 08:57:37
 
Hi Roly,

No will not attempt that, if the stud which is quite thick has broken I am not sure anything other than drilling it out will work, however clearance is so tight with engine in car that I am favouring leaving it well alone. I might try to pull the manifold again today and apply a thin smear of something on the gasket in the area where there is no stud then put it all back and forget about it.

If all goes to plan at some point I will have a spare engine so could swap head or even engine!

I really wish I had not bothered attempting to do anything with it at all now  Angry

From underneath I found a bit of rust on the passenger footwell by the transmission tunnel, need to apply something like Jenolite and waxoyl to stop it getting worse over the summer prior to a proper repair over the winter months, so off to local motor factor before I go to the garage today.

Still onwards and upwards.

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Reply #5 - 12.04.2012 at 09:02:53
 
trouble with these manifolds is that 4 studs is not enough ad 3 even worse. you are about to open a can of worms. Sad
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Reply #6 - 12.04.2012 at 09:28:01
 
Hi Roly,

Having read your saga I sure am glad we have an electric oven or I might be tempted  Grin

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Reply #7 - 12.04.2012 at 17:56:36
 
Progress today consisted of oil change, adjust wheel bearings (noticed that one of the grease nipples was missing so cut down a bolt to fit as temporary measure) and fit the new boot lock.

Decided not to do anything about the exhaust manifold today but to look for someone local to me who can TIG weld to see if that will sort the snapped off stud (anybody know of anyone in East Anglia...Brian?

Weekend off and some racing at Snetterton on Saturday then perhaps the rear brace next week and order the material in to make the front brace.

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Reply #8 - 12.04.2012 at 18:30:34
 
Hi Mark, Regards broken stud, do you think its accesable to TIG, would there be enough room for torch,filler rod and head shield to be in a position to see what you would be welding ? Perhaps you could post a photo or drop me a PM and I'll pop out and have a look, if I remember right you are only a few miles up the road, if I can get at it, I can weld it.

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Reply #9 - 12.04.2012 at 19:00:01
 
Cheers Brian I thought you might be up for a challenge, the manifold is back on now but I will take a picture tomorrow so you can see how close the face is to the side of the engine bay. The stud is about 3mm into the head I would guess.

I am not sure how well you would be able to see what you were welding, I guess torch and rod might be OK but you would have to look down onto the job rather than straight at it.

I can bring it over to you as you are out Wisbech way I think.

In order to be able to weld I would guess the manifold would need to be completely removed to give access so would have to get under the car (on a lift) to disconnect manifold from downpipes.

I am sure I could arrange access to a lift close to here if that helps.

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Reply #10 - 12.04.2012 at 19:23:16
 
Wo says tomorrow never comes  Smiley

Close up of missing stud.

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Reply #11 - 12.04.2012 at 19:34:46
 
And a more general view.

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Reply #12 - 12.04.2012 at 19:37:43
 
where was brian when I needed him?? Smiley
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Reply #13 - 12.04.2012 at 19:40:49
 
Hi Roly,

Us carrot crunchers stick together you know Wink

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Reply #14 - 13.04.2012 at 18:23:45
 
Well Mark, as one carrot cruncher to another.... looking at the photo, I don't think a welder will help, even with the manifold off! if the stud is broken a few mil into the head there is no way to get a decent weld between a washer or nut and the stud, the last one I did I bought a 90 degree angle chuck for my drill and managed to drill down the centre of broken stud and tap a new thread, this was not as easy as it sounds and took several shortened drill bits, loads of swearing and not a small amount of skin, but it did work in the end.Have acess to 4 poster and workshop if you need help .
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Reply #15 - 13.04.2012 at 18:56:15
 
Cheers Brian, how wide  is the 90 degree bit. I can see several on that well known auction site but most look quite bulky. I did see a full kit with flexi drive and right angle adapter that looked fairly compact and also one that was compact but said was for cordless drill so not sure which way to go ?

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Reply #16 - 13.04.2012 at 19:56:22
 
Brian wrote on 13.04.2012 at 18:23:45:
Well Mark, as one carrot cruncher to another.... looking at the photo, I don't think a welder will help, even with the manifold off! if the stud is broken a few mil into the head there is no way to get a decent weld between a washer or nut and the stud, the last one I did I bought a 90 degree angle chuck for my drill and managed to drill down the centre of broken stud and tap a new thread, this was not as easy as it sounds and took several shortened drill bits, loads of swearing and not a small amount of skin, but it did work in the end.Have acess to 4 poster and workshop if you need help .
  All the best Brian

Well at least you will be able to get a good kip mark.! Wink
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Reply #17 - 13.04.2012 at 21:12:54
 
Yes Roly, sounds like an upgrade from the one I usually use, might be too posh to sleep in  Grin

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Reply #18 - 13.04.2012 at 21:46:01
 
So today, following the work on the front suspension I decided to get the alignment checked......no problem with adjusting it  BUT a cursory glance at the nearside radius arm mount was a bit worrying.
Some movement in what looks like pretty dodgy previous repair  Sad the metal seems sound around some dodgy welding so hopefully not to big a repair job just a tidy up and reweld.

Two steps forward one step back.

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Reply #19 - 16.04.2012 at 18:34:41
 
Mark, here's a photo of the angle chuck that I used to drill out the broken stud on a V12 XJS, mine was on the rear manifold, nearside. I cut down the drill bits to 30 m/m to make more room for the chuck, getting to drill central was the hardest part.

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Reply #20 - 16.04.2012 at 19:58:52
 
Thanks Brian, that is just like the ones I have seen, I will add it to my ever growing list of jobs  Smiley

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Reply #21 - 04.05.2012 at 14:54:57
 
So today's task was to sort out the iffy radius arm repair that had previously been done on the car, luckily the metal was all sound it was just a really poor weld that was allowing a bit of movement. So in less than an hour it was all sorted out and some underseal applied.  ( by an expert , definitely not me!)

Good result as this weekend I am at Donington on Saturday and then Brands Hatch on Sunday so will do lots of miles.
With that in mind I had the alignment checked again and the wheel balance, nothing to report but the front tyres were wearing on the inner edge (from previous use) so I swapped the front to rear to cure a tendency for the car to tramline.

All I need now is some nice weather to get the hood down.....Fat Chance based on the forecast.

While at the garage we started to make plans for the recommission and upgrade of my XJS Coupe, looks like a few months before work can be started on that but no rush, I have waited this long to make sure I get it done properly and don't get tempted to skimp on what is needed....Happy Days.

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Reply #22 - 09.05.2012 at 21:05:42
 
I am happy to report that the car has just got me back from Silverstone having covered some 750 miles since Saturday (Donington Saturday, Brands Hatch Sunday and Silverstone today) and not missed a beat  Smiley

Shame about the weather although did get the hood down all the way to Donington via Northampton....but it was very cold and not a great drive as it was Motorway all the way from Northampton.

Car attracted some attention in the car park at McDonalds this afternoon with somebody getting out of his car to get a closer look....in the rain!!

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Reply #23 - 20.05.2012 at 18:32:44
 
Well following my trip to Silverstone I am sad to report that the battery went flat overnight...it seems like the door unlock relay failed and kept tripping resulting in the flat battery.

I now need to find the relay, it sits in the side of the drivers footwell on the earlier cars.

Anybody have any idea where to get one?
I checked my 1988 Coupe and that has a different system so need one for a 1983 car.

Off to Silverstone again next weekend so more mile for the old girl.

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Reply #24 - 09.09.2012 at 13:31:08
 
Hi,

The latest mod is to fabricate and fit a cross brace to  the front of the car, I looked at the Jag one for a convertible and felt it looked very flimsy so had one made based on the type used on the Aston DB7. With his done my "Cabriolet" now has bracing in the boot, under the diff (Jaguar standard braces, the diff one being the ladder type) and now under the engine. I sure hope I can feel the difference when I drive the car  Roll Eyes

I have also put the Cabriolet back onto 15" lattice alloys running 225/60 15 tyres as the 16" ones were always meant for my coupe.

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Reply #25 - 10.09.2012 at 07:55:50
 
Hi Mark, that should do the job!!Are you going to galv and powder coat?

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Reply #26 - 10.09.2012 at 17:40:26
 
Hi Brian,

I hope so it feels so much more solid than the tubular version you can get from Jaguar.

The photo was of the trial fit, the braces (front and back) are now in the workshop looking all shiny in black ready to be bolted up tomorrow once the car comes out of the spray booth (just some minor cosmetics to make it look nicer). Needless to say I did none of this and entrusted it all to my local man.

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Reply #27 - 12.09.2012 at 14:38:15
 
Front brace painted & fitted.

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Reply #28 - 12.09.2012 at 14:40:23
 
Rear brace - the bolts have been shortened since the photo was taken.

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Reply #29 - 12.09.2012 at 14:42:30
 
And the job most noticeable, the single rear foglight has been replaced by a pair, the rear looks so much more balanced with 2.

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Reply #30 - 12.09.2012 at 16:15:01
 
Looks Good!!
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Reply #31 - 12.09.2012 at 21:03:53
 
Thanks Brian, drives good too no more scuttle shake as those braces are very solid  and just what the old girl needed Cool

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Reply #32 - 22.09.2012 at 20:15:51
 
Today's work was to fit a later style set of seats (Recaro style as fitted from 1987 on) to the car. Took all day and was a bit of a faff but seats are in and just a few bits of tidying up left to do.

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